Talk:Ikulu's Lament
I know how she feels.
Regarding a discussion tcm and I had not too many days ago: Hedamu does not equal Habogad. We do know who Hedamu is, however, or at least his descendant. JC knows.
Tcm also mentioned that there was some evidence that Gunther's spear was *the* spear that must be used to transfix the enemy. What is it?
Perhaps one note of optimism: however the enemy was defeated previously, it was without Ikulu's aid. There are others who would oppose the Octopuses, or have done so in the past. Ikulu's List, plus the names of power, plus the Book of Moons -- that's one way to do it. It might not be the only way. Or even the expedient way.
Poor Ikulu. She may have wasted her prodigious life barking up the wrong tree. -- Noah 23:03, 5 Sep 2005 (EDT)
We should probably keep in mind that Ikulu differentiates between the enemy (Tailed People), their gods and their gods' gods. My theory on the enemy of the enemy is that they are either "beyond" the Ganges (which Alexander the Great was not able to conquer) or, maybe even better, the Sarasvasti River, a river of mythical importance which dried up around 2000 BC. A dried up river makes a really good candidate for a river of stones. --ET 23:26, 5 Sep 2005 (EDT)
tcm: yeah, Hedamu does not equal Habogad. is this descendant the stylite? if it is, Jean-Claude has told us about him.
re: the spear as *the* spear: if you remember, a fragment from one of the Black Cube Poems was given to Ivan by the Duchess Anna Ivanovna as his gift while everyone else was getting super-awesome crazy magic things. the spear became much more important when the rest of this poem was found on a cube in a dungeon that Igwolf had built. Ikulu's Lament mentions that the spear needs to be dipped in lava in order to unlock its full potential (while also burning the dipper's hand very severely). again, we're not certain yet, but the eight ball says it's very likely.
Hedamu is not human. If JC has forgotten the specifics, reading Ido's note again may refresh his memory. -- Noah 10:22, 6 Sep 2005 (EDT)
tcm: oh! you mean the dragon on Mt. Ararat. yeah, JC's mentioned that too, and in fact that does make sense. if Noah is Deucalion (which he is), then Hedamu would be near his boat on Mt. Ararat (which is where Noah is believed to have landed).
