Talk:Timeline of Everything

Noah: Is there enough here such that we can start asking questions?

Kerry: Sure, question away. Additions welcome as well.

Noah: Ok. Was the crucifixion to prevent a flood, distract B Side while the axis was assembled, or both? If it was to prevent a flood, by what mechanism was the flood to come about (anything more concrete than the stars being right)? If as a distraction, by what mechanism was the access assembled?

Kerry: The crucifixition was not a distraction, but rather the act necessary to establish a new axis. The suffering of Christ was a distraction. The flood cycle is much longer.

Noah: But the axis the cross created is symbolic of a physical axis created elsewhere, one presumes at the north (and south?) pole (as Merlin and Nimue seemed to have concluded). That is to say, the "real" esoteric axis is not at Golgotha, but somewhere else. Do I have this right?

Kerry: Nope. The exoteric axis is that which is physical, ie it runs through the poles. This axis is coeval with earth (the planet, not the dry landmass.) The esoteric axis by nature is a spiritual axis, and has no physical nature/location. However, the Tower of Babel was to be another axis, and the Spindle of the Dao may have been a different axis as well. Heck, the Spindle and the Tower might even be the same thing/place. Harald has two pieces of magical stone, one from the Spindle, and one from the Tower. They look a lot alike, and a vision of the Tower exploding (granted by the amphora of blood soaked earth) showed that it was built of black stone, exactly like the pieces Harald has.

Noah: Yeah, I'm envious. Those are quite useful, you know. In any event, what is then meant by putting the graal on the north pole? I was under the impression that Babel fell not merely because the peoples of the sea attacked, but also because it was built in the wrong place. Where did you pick up the Spindle of the Dao, and why is it so called?

Kerry: Taking the grail over the pole was a bad idea. It wasn't done on purpose, but merely a side effect of the plan to take the enemy in America by surprise via the Northwest Passage.

Noah: ...I still don't dig it. Merlin is referring to the "black and high rock" as a destination, is he not? Perhaps not.

Kerry: He says "to pass over the pole is suicide, and your mighty navy will be destroyed. A new route must be planned to surprise the enemy, perhaps even one that arcs far to the south." The pole is to be passed over as a means of surprising the enemy. Merlin is suggesting going around South America if I am not mistaken. The point either way seems to be to attack from the rear, via the West Coast. I think the "rock" is a feature of the North Pole, but not the destination. Arthur is taking an army with him, so this sounds like an invasion, not a dungeon hack.

Kerry: The Spindle of the Dao was in the Forbidden Dungeon near the Castle of Maidens. Some undead Muslims there clued us in. They also hinted that the Rock of the Kabaa was taken from the Spindle/Tower. "We got its heart", they said. As for uses of Tower bits, maybe Eorl can give us some info about certain rock-powered mecha hiding nearby. Harald can show up in Chrysopolis anytime, so let's figure out when we can hang. Hal has to deal with chronology issues, though.

Noah: Indeed, you would seem to have a piece from the Kabaa (the real one) and the piece that the Pope used to have, both of which came from the cornerstone of the tower of Babel. As for mecha and such, I'm sure something can be arranged, as it is no use to anyone without a power source. There are also, you know, spaceships to be flown, but you didn't hear that from me. Chronology problems are quite serious, as we are now two months behind, having to re-play the same month with a different party. However, now that you are zapping hither and yon instead of spending weeks in transit, we will catch up sooner or later. Just don't die or materialize into a floor.

Kerry: Yeah, I'd love to see those spaceships. I want to contact the Queens group, but that opens a whole different can of worms. Harald's interest in them has been piqued by talking with Orm's Moorish Allies, who clued him in on some of the Queens folks' doings.

Noah: Do we have rough dates for the birth and death of Ikulu? Do we have a rough date on Ayesha and the Burkerae shenanigans?

Kerry: Igwilf is born ~420BC, maybe a little later. Death is around 280BC. That seems a little long, and we know she has a relatively normal human lifespan. Still, not too far from that. I'll do some work on Ayesha later, but she is after the fall of the Tower of Babel. She was around and in charge by the time of Nectanebos. The Burkerae do their deal when Igwilf is an adult, so likely early 400's or 390's.

Noah: What is the source on elves from Mu?

Kerry: Noria, aka The Star Maiden, taught the elves the means of "going West", ie separating their Ba and Ka. She is the great aunt of Caesara, and is referred to in Fragment Regarding 'Mu' from a Greek Miscellany. The elves survived the Flood and learned how to "go west" from Noria. Only the Mu people listened to her, so I deduced that the Mu folks were elves.

Also, dates on floods and such are from the Al Aziz. I'll post it as soon as Hal emails it to me.

Noah: Not for nothing, word on the street is that the Al Aziz is an unreliable source. Those numbers sound right though. When you talk about the "Elder Gods" in the age of Middle Life, you are talking about the likes of Ouranos and Gaia, right? There isn't an additional age before them.

Kerry: The Age of Middle Life's Elder Gods are folks like Yuggoth. Probably pre Ouranos and Gaia, as I think they only show up for the last cycle.

Noah: Now that is what I was afraid you were going to tell me.