Talk:Character Description
Kerry says: I think we should do this without the tables and all that because this way is much easier to input and correct currently inputted characters.
Maggie says: - No, it looks crappy without the tables. Why not take SOME advantage of wiki editing? In any case, you can make it look however you want, no problem. If people want to use this template here, they're more than welcome to. Frodo's description is just an example. The information at the top is really what information should be entered.
Kerry says: - The point of having standards is so that each character page can be done on the same format. If you use the template you have to reinupt all of the information. Also, there is alot of stuff that we don't know for a lot of characters, ie stats. Also, the navigation bar is appearing on top of the page in my browser.
Maggie says: - I'll change the top of the page to not use tables so people can copy and paste that thing. Maybe we don't need a format for layout, but just guidelines of what kind of informtion people should provide? After all, that's the only thing that's important (and character pages will vary greatly - Eorl's gonna have a giant biography written about him, while J-C has 3 lines). But I really like the table for stats (Str, Int. etc). Which navigation bar are you talking about?
Kerry says: - The bar with the octopus logo and naviagtion likns and stuff. Everything on the left side of the screen.
The problem with using the table for stats is that we don't know the stats for so many characters, and many people won't put them up. I am making most of the NPC character pages, so I want a format I am comfortable with and that is easy to use for everyone. We already put up the vast majority of the characters in the campaign, so I don't think we should introduce an all-new system. With my format you can just move info around.
Maggie says: - uhm, if you want a format that's as flexible as possible, why enforce it? Why not just let people use the wiki as they've been using it? I mean, you're the one who came up with mandatory fields - that doesn't really make things flexible.
Kerry says: - When I say flexible I mean a format that is easy to apply to the listings that already exist. I want to update all the NPCs, and my PCs, to this format, so I don;t want to have to cut and paste a large list of text and then write over it. It would be nice if everyone else does likewise, because then anyone can know that Gregoria is a half-elf, for example, or that Helgi was a fighter/thief.
Maggie says: - Cool. I put your format at the top and saved my example character page below. This should be a good compromise (and stop reverting my changes, punk!)
Kerry says: - I'm a jerk?!? YOU keep changing MY page. I decided to do what everyone else had been putting off and write a standards page. You're just using the fact that you are admin to enforce your ideas, which is way jerky. Finally, your page isn't even viewable on my machine!
Maggie says: - What do you mean not viewable? You can't see the page at all?
Kerry says: - I keep telling you, the stuff that is normally on the left side of the page(octopus logo, navigation links, search) and on top of the character description page so that you can't see part of the page.
Maggie says: - can you send me a screen shot? If not, go into your preferences area and see if you're using the correct template layout. That might be a problem. Other than that, who knows?
ET says: - Like Kerry, I also see the sidebar sitting on top of the page.
Maggie says: Listen up: I have no idea what sidebars sitting on top of the page you guys are talking about. You have to describe IN DETAIL or PROVIDE SCREENSHOTS. Have you tried to mess around with user preferences? What browsers are you using? All this is helpful information. Don't be that guy that says "my computer pointy-thingy's not working". Don't be THAT GUY, guys!
thecomicman says: i am also having this problem. i have sent you a screenshot, and i am using IE. i always use IE and this problem only just started. i have not fucked with my preferences because i am afraid of them. also, i shouldn't have to fuck with my preferences because i didn't fuck with them before to make the page all wonky. and also, it's just the one page: Character Description.
ET says: I think it's IE. I'm at home and it looks fine in Safari. Also, the conversation makes a lot more sense now.
Maggie says: Ok, it should be fixed now. The page contained a table within a wiki that was breaking the table structure (I missed a parenthesis or a bracket or a pipe somewhere). It looks good in IE for me now. (And props to Adan for sending me a screen shot). Let me know if you see any other problems. Also, go to http://www.getfirefox.com to get Firefox instead of using IE (the lamest browser of all).
thecomicman says: thanks for fixing it Magda. now about these standards. most of them seem innocuous enough, but no way am i putting all this "Mandatory" stuff on a character or whatever if i don't want to. Kerry, you're just gonna have to live with that.
